Published on August 30, 2011 by Elizabeth Achtemeier  

https://www.samford.edu/beeson-divinity/podcast/audio/beeson-podcast-episode-045-achtemeier.mp3 

measuring the ruins
Dr. Timothy George and Dr. Robert Smith, Jr., discuss Elizabeth Achtemeier's sermon “Measuring the Ruins,” which was preached at Beeson Divinity School as part of the Conger Preaching Lectures. The full sermon follows their discussion.